host: joe biden is not a senate person? guest: he grew into one. it wasbefore he had here. hagel's personal ties are limited. in terms of republican support, i think it is nonexistent. we will see what happens in the hearings. i do not think it will be voting for him. him because of friendship. host: you can listen to all of the confirmation hearings on c- span. we're talking with steve clemons with "the atlanta." and gary schmitt of the american enterprise institute. our focus is the nomination of chuck hagel to be the next defense secretary. ann joins us from tennessee, a democrat. caller: it does not matter who president obama nominates. the republicans will get everything and everybody he puts up there. they do not know -- what anybody who knows about war or how it feels to be in war. they can sit behind that desk and put authorizations. someone who has walked in their shoes know about war. it is time for the republicans and democrats to wake up. host: thanks for calling. gary schmitt? guest: there are senators who have walked in those shoes. senator mccain has locked i